Comments on: The Al-Queda of the West?

By: See it for what it is

See it for what it is — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:27:56 +0000

I just don’t know why people feel that a discussion is even relevent for something like this. 500 people won’t even change this…. it will take each and everone of us to change! Teach your own children about hatred!

By: Tim Hall

Tim Hall — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 09:05:39 +0000

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By: Greg

Greg — Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:14:48 +0000

You may well be safe from the Mail’s solicitors then!

I’ll take your word for it on Fjordman’s articles, from what you say it’s best to steer well clear . Out of interest, Phillips’ take on the use of her words by Brevik is below:

‘there are only two references to me or my work in its 1500 pages. Those references are to two articles by me published in the Daily Mail, a mainstream British paper — one on mass fatherlessness in Britain, and the other on the revelation by a former civil servant of a covert Labour government policy of mass immigration into Britain. There is no reference whatever to my writing on Islamisation.

Not only that, Breivik name-checks a vast number of mainstream writers and thinkers, including Bernard Lewis, Roger Scruton, Ibn Warraq, Mark Steyn, Theodore Dalrymple, Daniel Hannan, Diana West, Lars Hedegaard, Frank Field, Nicolas Soames, Keith Windschuttle, Edmund Burke, John Locke, Thomas Jefferson, Friedrich Hayek, Winston Churchill, Mahatma Ghandi, George Orwell and many others; indeed, itâ€™s a roll call of western thinking and beyond, past and present.’

By: Tim Hall

Tim Hall — Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:00:06 +0000

Put “Melanie Phillips Racist” into Google, and you get not far short of two and a half million hits. I think the Daily Mail’s lawyers have a lot of names on their list before they get as far as me. If she doesn’t like being called a racist, she should stop blowing the racist dog whistle all the time.

I hope chose my words carefully when it comes to exactly who does and doesn’t have “Blood on their hands” (which is quoting Charles Johnson, who does name names).

I’m not going ask you to start into the abyss and read any of Fjordman’s screens. But take my word for it, he is truly vile.

By: Greg

Greg — Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:46:14 +0000

I hesitate to comment on any political matters as words can be so easily misconstrued, so I really won’t mind if you don’t publish this comment!

Huge care is needed in writing about this issue. I’m no fan of Melanie Phillips etc, but I’m sure she’s never suggested the use of violence against anyone. It’s therefore a huge leap to say that the fact that parts of her commentary have ended up in this loon’s ‘manifesto’ causes her and her fellow right-wing commentators to have ‘blood on their hands’ or to have ‘perperatrated’ this appalling event. I do worry that left-wing commentators are making the same sort of mistake that right-wingers do when, for example, right-wing commentators conflate peaceful Muslims (who may simply have a different world-view) with terrorist Islamists.

One other thing: is Phillips actually a ‘racist’? Unless you can prove that she is, that comment could be perceived as defamatory. I would hate you to get contacted by Daily Mail lawyers.