Comments on: Even the wingnuts get it

By: dariuskan

dariuskan — Tue, 24 May 2005 19:12:32 +0000

Yep, they’ve made some mistakes in Iraq, for sure. Abu Ghraib springs to mind. HOWEVER, and this is where you guys really fall down, they have done a lot of things right, too. You guys have a problem with giving credit where credit’s due. The election was a watershed moment. I mean, do you think it’s easy occupying a country with a large hostile minority? Are you surprised that mistakes are made and some individuals on the occupying side go loco? Does this mean it wasn’t worth doing? No. Your problem is your perspectives are so mightily biased that you can’t see what’s in front of your faces; things are actually getting better in Iraq. And you all cuss out Fox for showing good news pieces from Iraq, as if good news stories couldn’t possibly exist in Iraq. No no, we can’t watch that, we only want to see and be told how America’s screwing the place up. Pathetic.

Incidentally, I noticed you’ve fallen for the ‘desecrated korans’ lie. Don’t you know that Newsweek retracted that claim?

By: Tim Hall

Tim Hall — Tue, 24 May 2005 12:58:10 +0000

It’s the right that “doesn’t get it”. For a start, I’m not an antiwar leftist. I supported the war against the despicable Taliban, and don’t feel any sense of moral outrage at the overthrow of a blood-soaked dictatorship in Iraq. I cheered when US forces caught the bastard.

What the right doesn’t seem to recognise is that America made, and continues to make, some major mistakes in the follow-up in Iraq. Anyone who thinks the only solution is to ‘blow away the bad guys’ has had their brain rotted by too many bad Hollywood action movies.

By: dariuskan

dariuskan — Tue, 24 May 2005 11:02:30 +0000

Hrm. Your characterisation of Rummy sounds like so much hysteria from the left. Not to mention your ridiculously and blatantly one-sided portrayal on the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. And still you wonder why people ignore you guys…

By: Perry de Havilland

Perry de Havilland — Sun, 22 May 2005 17:06:28 +0000

Realy? Why? Perhaps you do not actually know what the term means The usage is “He was buttoned down so tight he needs wingnut”… in other words an old fashioned social conservative who disapproves of gays, thinks rock is the music of the devil and regards the state as being there to enforce the social norms of which they approve Think Pat Buchannan or Strom Thurmond in the USA or Anne Widdicombe or Mary Whitehouse in the UK). I am a laissez faire free marketeer, and that includes the market of ideas and social solutions, which is not the same thing at all.

By: Tim Hall

Tim Hall — Sun, 22 May 2005 16:39:31 +0000

What about “I would like to see the whole of Kent paved over?”. I’d call that Wingnut….

By: Perry de Havilland

Perry de Havilland — Sun, 22 May 2005 16:19:23 +0000

You make yourself look rather undiscerning by calling me, who supports drug legalisation, personal choice on abortion, homosexual marriage (by virtue of denying the state any role in the issue of marriage) and an end to immigration restrictions, a ‘wingnut’. Weird.