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	<title>Comments on: Why I Don&#8217;t Like Game of Thrones</title>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2014 02:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL. 

GoT: Most of the characters were downright irritating. F@$%&amp;/* plotholes F@$%&amp;/* a loooot everywhere. York vs Lancaster. Game of England. 
The man doesn&#039;t know how to tell &#039;bout battles or magic things. Sex sex sex nudes and tits and blood and raping. F@$%&amp;/* a lot characters that comes to the battle sayin&#039; &quot;Aghaghh!! I&#039;m dead!&quot; and stuff. 
Fantasy? Just the cheap porn with the girls.  If almost we can say Arya &quot;it&#039;s a girl&quot;. I can&#039;t believe that character. Please. 
GoT, A song of ice and fire... equals WC &quot;literature&quot;.  That&#039;s a commercial nonsense without backstories and poor worldbuilding. Lots of marketing. An unforgetable oblivion :P 

Tony Stark is the only Stark that rocks. 
Cheers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. </p>
<p>GoT: Most of the characters were downright irritating. F@$%&amp;/* plotholes F@$%&amp;/* a loooot everywhere. York vs Lancaster. Game of England.<br />
The man doesn&#8217;t know how to tell &#8217;bout battles or magic things. Sex sex sex nudes and tits and blood and raping. F@$%&amp;/* a lot characters that comes to the battle sayin&#8217; &#8220;Aghaghh!! I&#8217;m dead!&#8221; and stuff.<br />
Fantasy? Just the cheap porn with the girls.  If almost we can say Arya &#8220;it&#8217;s a girl&#8221;. I can&#8217;t believe that character. Please.<br />
GoT, A song of ice and fire&#8230; equals WC &#8220;literature&#8221;.  That&#8217;s a commercial nonsense without backstories and poor worldbuilding. Lots of marketing. An unforgetable oblivion <img src='http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Tony Stark is the only Stark that rocks.<br />
Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: John P.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John P.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve only read two books of GoT (the third is in the pile to be read - it was cheap at the supermarket) but I&#039;ve got the feeling that it will turn out like Dune for me. I really enjoyed the first book, the second book less so, the third &amp; fourth became a chore and that put a stop to the series. The reviews I&#039;ve read of the later GoT books seem to suggest that the action type narrative gives way to longer chunks of dialogue and characters worrying/thinking about things - which sounds pretty tedious.

Having said that, I read through all 12 of the Sharpe books that Bernard Cornwall wrote before it became popular (yes, read them back-to-back) but then quickly tailed off once I got to the ones he wrote after the films were produced. They just weren&#039;t the same after that. Oh well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only read two books of GoT (the third is in the pile to be read &#8211; it was cheap at the supermarket) but I&#8217;ve got the feeling that it will turn out like Dune for me. I really enjoyed the first book, the second book less so, the third &amp; fourth became a chore and that put a stop to the series. The reviews I&#8217;ve read of the later GoT books seem to suggest that the action type narrative gives way to longer chunks of dialogue and characters worrying/thinking about things &#8211; which sounds pretty tedious.</p>
<p>Having said that, I read through all 12 of the Sharpe books that Bernard Cornwall wrote before it became popular (yes, read them back-to-back) but then quickly tailed off once I got to the ones he wrote after the films were produced. They just weren&#8217;t the same after that. Oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: newenglandsun</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[newenglandsun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The author himself states explicitly that he bases his books on Maurice Druon&#039;s historical fiction series, &quot;The Accursed Kings&quot;. I think I&#039;ll read that series instead. Thanks for this review.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author himself states explicitly that he bases his books on Maurice Druon&#8217;s historical fiction series, &#8220;The Accursed Kings&#8221;. I think I&#8217;ll read that series instead. Thanks for this review.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that Game of Thrones does fairly well with the world-building and fantasy politics, and I think that it is important to note that it&#039;s one of the first larger fantasy epics to attempt a break from the Tolkien model.  (It succeeds at this better in some places than others.)  If Game of Thrones was a milieu story, like Dune, with a focus on the world and the politics and the history all intertwining, then I might like it better.  But it infuriates me when people go on and on about how character-driven Game of Thrones is when almost all of the characters barely break two dimensions.  There are so many characters and story lines, all presented at one time, that it&#039;s impossible to get emotionally invested in all of them.  I think it&#039;s important to have well-rounded characters to be interested in AND have a well-developed plot and world.  Dune focused entirely on the world, which is not my cup of tea, but I respect it for what it is.  Game of Thrones tried to have characters and a world and fell short in the character department, and the world isn&#039;t quite engaging enough to stand on it&#039;s own without characters.

The HBO series does a remarkable job paying attention to detail when building the world, and I give them kudos for trying to stay as close to the source material as possible.  But that is also their downfall because there are things that work in a book that don&#039;t translate well to the screen.  Heavy politics is one of them.  Plus, I can&#039;t get really emotionally involved in the characters because I&#039;m expecting anyone I start liking to die and that&#039;s too close to real life for me to find it entertaining.  Some people like the &quot;no one is safe!&quot; trend that fantasy is taking.  Me, I wanted to read and watch fantasy to get some relief from the horrors of reality, not have them shoved in my face in technicolor.

So far I&#039;ve only read the first book and watched the first season.  I doubt I&#039;ll read the rest of the books, but I may watch the rest of the series.  Eventually.  Maybe.  Or maybe not.

Thanks for showing that there are other people out among the wilds of the internet who aren&#039;t enamored with Game of Thrones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Game of Thrones does fairly well with the world-building and fantasy politics, and I think that it is important to note that it&#8217;s one of the first larger fantasy epics to attempt a break from the Tolkien model.  (It succeeds at this better in some places than others.)  If Game of Thrones was a milieu story, like Dune, with a focus on the world and the politics and the history all intertwining, then I might like it better.  But it infuriates me when people go on and on about how character-driven Game of Thrones is when almost all of the characters barely break two dimensions.  There are so many characters and story lines, all presented at one time, that it&#8217;s impossible to get emotionally invested in all of them.  I think it&#8217;s important to have well-rounded characters to be interested in AND have a well-developed plot and world.  Dune focused entirely on the world, which is not my cup of tea, but I respect it for what it is.  Game of Thrones tried to have characters and a world and fell short in the character department, and the world isn&#8217;t quite engaging enough to stand on it&#8217;s own without characters.</p>
<p>The HBO series does a remarkable job paying attention to detail when building the world, and I give them kudos for trying to stay as close to the source material as possible.  But that is also their downfall because there are things that work in a book that don&#8217;t translate well to the screen.  Heavy politics is one of them.  Plus, I can&#8217;t get really emotionally involved in the characters because I&#8217;m expecting anyone I start liking to die and that&#8217;s too close to real life for me to find it entertaining.  Some people like the &#8220;no one is safe!&#8221; trend that fantasy is taking.  Me, I wanted to read and watch fantasy to get some relief from the horrors of reality, not have them shoved in my face in technicolor.</p>
<p>So far I&#8217;ve only read the first book and watched the first season.  I doubt I&#8217;ll read the rest of the books, but I may watch the rest of the series.  Eventually.  Maybe.  Or maybe not.</p>
<p>Thanks for showing that there are other people out among the wilds of the internet who aren&#8217;t enamored with Game of Thrones.</p>
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		<title>By: Am I the only one who doesn&#8217;t like Game of Thrones? &#124; Linda Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Am I the only one who doesn&#8217;t like Game of Thrones? &#124; Linda Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 10:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Hawkinsob

Searching for someone to back up your thoughts on the internet is always going to work.  Just because a lot of people see it that way doesn&#039;t even make it a valid observation.  And, come on, at the very least it&#039;s a &quot;good&quot; daytime soap set in medieval times.  I mean, have you even seen a bad soap?

Anyhow, soaps tend to trivialize events in the face of a character&#039;s emotions or feelings, but Game of Thrones is the opposite.  It trivializes emotions in the face of events.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hawkinsob</p>
<p>Searching for someone to back up your thoughts on the internet is always going to work.  Just because a lot of people see it that way doesn&#8217;t even make it a valid observation.  And, come on, at the very least it&#8217;s a &#8220;good&#8221; daytime soap set in medieval times.  I mean, have you even seen a bad soap?</p>
<p>Anyhow, soaps tend to trivialize events in the face of a character&#8217;s emotions or feelings, but Game of Thrones is the opposite.  It trivializes emotions in the face of events.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 20:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never seen the TV series. This post (which I wrote quite a while ago) was about the book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never seen the TV series. This post (which I wrote quite a while ago) was about the book.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawkinsob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hawkinsob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 20:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just got HBO and started watching the series from the beginning.  Very disappointed.  The reason I stumbled onto this particular page is that I Googled &quot;Game of Thrones soap opera,&quot; just to see if anyone agreed with me that it was a bad daytime soap set in medieval times.  The Google search pulled up hundreds of articles and reviews of course, coming to this very conclusion.  It most certainly is, as you say, a soap opera in medieval clothes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got HBO and started watching the series from the beginning.  Very disappointed.  The reason I stumbled onto this particular page is that I Googled &#8220;Game of Thrones soap opera,&#8221; just to see if anyone agreed with me that it was a bad daytime soap set in medieval times.  The Google search pulled up hundreds of articles and reviews of course, coming to this very conclusion.  It most certainly is, as you say, a soap opera in medieval clothes.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Conlon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Conlon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 23:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I came to the &quot;this is a soap opera&quot; conclusion while reading the second book.  My interest deteriorated rapidly and the book became a slog.

While the series might be a history as it happens, the problem I found is that it is impossible to tell what kind of a story a history of something is until it is all done.  When the series reaches some final conclusion, then it will be easy to tell who the main characters really were with others becoming minor regardless of how much page time they got.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came to the &#8220;this is a soap opera&#8221; conclusion while reading the second book.  My interest deteriorated rapidly and the book became a slog.</p>
<p>While the series might be a history as it happens, the problem I found is that it is impossible to tell what kind of a story a history of something is until it is all done.  When the series reaches some final conclusion, then it will be easy to tell who the main characters really were with others becoming minor regardless of how much page time they got.</p>
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		<title>By: Withnail</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Withnail]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can not comment on the book but I disliked the show. Got to episode 4 with yet another long manly speech and switched off. So dull! The beautiful blonde being raped by her &#039;husband&#039;, suddenly decides after a semi lesbian chat with a prostitute to become aroused instead of frightened and play the vixen. I see no reason for a woman to do this. Insulting to us all. I really wanted to love this as much as so many others, but it&#039;s a soap opera primarily aimed at the fellows. The women are ridiculous and the men self grandiose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can not comment on the book but I disliked the show. Got to episode 4 with yet another long manly speech and switched off. So dull! The beautiful blonde being raped by her &#8216;husband&#8217;, suddenly decides after a semi lesbian chat with a prostitute to become aroused instead of frightened and play the vixen. I see no reason for a woman to do this. Insulting to us all. I really wanted to love this as much as so many others, but it&#8217;s a soap opera primarily aimed at the fellows. The women are ridiculous and the men self grandiose.</p>
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