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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/sf-and-gaming/sf/that-sfwa-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-37741</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2014 22:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not that it applies to all American writers, of course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that it applies to all American writers, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/sf-and-gaming/sf/that-sfwa-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-37700</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2014 08:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Abi: I can understand why SF writers like to riff on history (Even Charlie Stross has done that), but why the love of feudalism? Is that primarily an American thing? I don&#039;t see it so much in British authors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Abi: I can understand why SF writers like to riff on history (Even Charlie Stross has done that), but why the love of feudalism? Is that primarily an American thing? I don&#8217;t see it so much in British authors.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/sf-and-gaming/sf/that-sfwa-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-37698</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2014 08:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Amadan The SFWA president is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfwa.org/2014/02/presidential-statement-regarding-sfwa-bulletin/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;demying such micro-management&lt;/a&gt;, but it might explain why some authors who should have known better had signed it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Amadan The SFWA president is <a href="http://www.sfwa.org/2014/02/presidential-statement-regarding-sfwa-bulletin/" rel="nofollow">demying such micro-management</a>, but it might explain why some authors who should have known better had signed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Amadan</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/sf-and-gaming/sf/that-sfwa-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-37688</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amadan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 23:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess I am  missing something. They are objecting to a &quot;review board&quot; that will basically exist to make sure no articles are published that might offend someone. I dislike spurious invocations of the First Amendment and &quot;Political Correctness&quot; as much as the next guy, but this really does seem like a ridiculous level of editorial micromanagement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I am  missing something. They are objecting to a &#8220;review board&#8221; that will basically exist to make sure no articles are published that might offend someone. I dislike spurious invocations of the First Amendment and &#8220;Political Correctness&#8221; as much as the next guy, but this really does seem like a ridiculous level of editorial micromanagement.</p>
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		<title>By: Abi Sutherland</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/sf-and-gaming/sf/that-sfwa-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-37681</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abi Sutherland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m often intrigued by the various SF worlds that are basically futures of the past.  (Babylon 5 comes to mind, but there are many).  But Le Guin had it right when she said it&#039;s not really about the future; it&#039;s about what&#039;s happening right here, right now, in our own heads and lives.

Because if you think about it, there are a lot of stories that we could tell about the future.  The ones we choose, and how we tell them, are the product of our present.

I think we forget that at our peril.

(And I got my daughter an Internet Puppy No Can Haz Noms T-shirt for her 10th birthday.  She adores it.  One generation&#039;s deadly insult is the next generations adorabz meme.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m often intrigued by the various SF worlds that are basically futures of the past.  (Babylon 5 comes to mind, but there are many).  But Le Guin had it right when she said it&#8217;s not really about the future; it&#8217;s about what&#8217;s happening right here, right now, in our own heads and lives.</p>
<p>Because if you think about it, there are a lot of stories that we could tell about the future.  The ones we choose, and how we tell them, are the product of our present.</p>
<p>I think we forget that at our peril.</p>
<p>(And I got my daughter an Internet Puppy No Can Haz Noms T-shirt for her 10th birthday.  She adores it.  One generation&#8217;s deadly insult is the next generations adorabz meme.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/sf-and-gaming/sf/that-sfwa-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-37680</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always been struck by the irony of the way SF is supposed to be all about The Future, but older authors get blindsided by changes they didn&#039;t&#039; see coming. Jerry Pournelle&#039;s apparent inability to come to terms with the fact that the future won&#039;t belong exclusively to those who are white and male, or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2013/07/crib-sheet-419rule-34.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Christopher Priest&#039;s failure to understand the internet and social networks&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always been struck by the irony of the way SF is supposed to be all about The Future, but older authors get blindsided by changes they didn&#8217;t&#8217; see coming. Jerry Pournelle&#8217;s apparent inability to come to terms with the fact that the future won&#8217;t belong exclusively to those who are white and male, or <a href="http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2013/07/crib-sheet-419rule-34.html" rel="nofollow">Christopher Priest&#8217;s failure to understand the internet and social networks</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Serdar</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/sf-and-gaming/sf/that-sfwa-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-37679</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Serdar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Abi I&#039;ve experienced much the same thing in my own readings. There are authors in my library who always seemed to be trying something new, pushing themselves, playing that much more over their own heads. I decided a long time ago that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.genjipress.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my own writing&lt;/a&gt; needed to fulfill a similar function: if I ended up repeating myself, or settling for a worldview which would guarantee me a sycophantic audience but provide me with no real challenges, that was no good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Abi I&#8217;ve experienced much the same thing in my own readings. There are authors in my library who always seemed to be trying something new, pushing themselves, playing that much more over their own heads. I decided a long time ago that <a href="http://www.genjipress.com" rel="nofollow">my own writing</a> needed to fulfill a similar function: if I ended up repeating myself, or settling for a worldview which would guarantee me a sycophantic audience but provide me with no real challenges, that was no good.</p>
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		<title>By: Abi Sutherland</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/sf-and-gaming/sf/that-sfwa-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-37678</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abi Sutherland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I noticed when I looked at the signatories is that they&#039;re on my shelves (books I&#039;ve had a long time, read a while ago, and considered good enough to keep through at least one international move), but they&#039;re not in my nightstand pile (current books to be read, either bought or requested based on recommendations).

I think many of the authors on my shelves pushed boundaries and challenged assumptions when they were younger.  The books on my shelves are the product of that phase in their lives.  But once they had the Boundary-Pusher and Assumption-Challenger badges, they kind of...froze in place (at best; some clearly veered toward the batty).  But the culture and the community have moved on past them now, to the next set of boundaries and assumptions.  They don&#039;t have the tenure they thought they did.

(Mind you, some of them have been that...off the whole time.  But those books aren&#039;t on my shelves.)

I&#039;d hasten to add that their hardening of the intellectual arteries is not inevitable.  They have contemporaries who have continued to grow and change as the culture has.  It&#039;s not an age thing, just a rigidity thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I noticed when I looked at the signatories is that they&#8217;re on my shelves (books I&#8217;ve had a long time, read a while ago, and considered good enough to keep through at least one international move), but they&#8217;re not in my nightstand pile (current books to be read, either bought or requested based on recommendations).</p>
<p>I think many of the authors on my shelves pushed boundaries and challenged assumptions when they were younger.  The books on my shelves are the product of that phase in their lives.  But once they had the Boundary-Pusher and Assumption-Challenger badges, they kind of&#8230;froze in place (at best; some clearly veered toward the batty).  But the culture and the community have moved on past them now, to the next set of boundaries and assumptions.  They don&#8217;t have the tenure they thought they did.</p>
<p>(Mind you, some of them have been that&#8230;off the whole time.  But those books aren&#8217;t on my shelves.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d hasten to add that their hardening of the intellectual arteries is not inevitable.  They have contemporaries who have continued to grow and change as the culture has.  It&#8217;s not an age thing, just a rigidity thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Serdar</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/sf-and-gaming/sf/that-sfwa-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-37677</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Serdar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nugent&#039;s entire Å“uvre could vanish overnight and I think the only thing I&#039;d miss would be the pun in the title for &quot;Intensities In Ten Cities&quot; and the name &quot;Double Live Gonzo.&quot; And that&#039;s about it.

Masami Akita, aka Merzbow, is prominently left-leaning and supports many environmental and ecological causes, but I&#039;m loathe to buy any of his records where he mentions PETA on the sleeve because of the severe ethical reservations I have about that organization&#039;s practices.

And one of the reasons I grew increasingly dismayed with the recent crop of SF and fantasy authors was how many of them turned out to be such reactionary twerps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nugent&#8217;s entire Å“uvre could vanish overnight and I think the only thing I&#8217;d miss would be the pun in the title for &#8220;Intensities In Ten Cities&#8221; and the name &#8220;Double Live Gonzo.&#8221; And that&#8217;s about it.</p>
<p>Masami Akita, aka Merzbow, is prominently left-leaning and supports many environmental and ecological causes, but I&#8217;m loathe to buy any of his records where he mentions PETA on the sleeve because of the severe ethical reservations I have about that organization&#8217;s practices.</p>
<p>And one of the reasons I grew increasingly dismayed with the recent crop of SF and fantasy authors was how many of them turned out to be such reactionary twerps.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/sf-and-gaming/sf/that-sfwa-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-37676</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can think of a few &quot;problematic&quot; musicians; Dave Mustaine of Megadeth being an obvious one. There are one or two others I know personally where the less I know about their politics the better.

Ted Nugent is a more extreme example. I would guess that the vast bulk of his current audience are there &lt;em&gt;because&lt;/em&gt; he&#039;s a racist, sexist asshole. He&#039;s never been particularly influential or groudbreaking as a musician, so his art is easy to live without.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can think of a few &#8220;problematic&#8221; musicians; Dave Mustaine of Megadeth being an obvious one. There are one or two others I know personally where the less I know about their politics the better.</p>
<p>Ted Nugent is a more extreme example. I would guess that the vast bulk of his current audience are there <em>because</em> he&#8217;s a racist, sexist asshole. He&#8217;s never been particularly influential or groudbreaking as a musician, so his art is easy to live without.</p>
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