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	<title>Comments on: Mark Clarke, the Tory Requires Hate?</title>
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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 22:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Similar to workplace bullies. The ones that survive are always those with a sixth sense for identifying the victims they can isolate from the people who are too well-connected to be worth the risk. And they always kiss the arses of people with real power.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Similar to workplace bullies. The ones that survive are always those with a sixth sense for identifying the victims they can isolate from the people who are too well-connected to be worth the risk. And they always kiss the arses of people with real power.</p>
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		<title>By: ObjectiveReality</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 22:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And &quot;bullying&quot; is a style in Westminster-style parliamentary democracy (our current PM here in New Zealand is great at it). I could see that generating a certain amount of tolerance for this stuff off the bat, and abusive people generally are really good at figuring out where the tolerances of any given group are and leaning heavily on those.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And &#8220;bullying&#8221; is a style in Westminster-style parliamentary democracy (our current PM here in New Zealand is great at it). I could see that generating a certain amount of tolerance for this stuff off the bat, and abusive people generally are really good at figuring out where the tolerances of any given group are and leaning heavily on those.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/rants/mark-clarke-the-tory-requires-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-74786</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 11:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t forget many of the senior Tories, Mark Clarke included, grew up in an environment where bullying was endemic and considered part of the culture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget many of the senior Tories, Mark Clarke included, grew up in an environment where bullying was endemic and considered part of the culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Colum Paget</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not just a matter of shared values though. We do sometimes spot abusers who share our values, because they act in ways counter to those values (&quot;You ain&#039;t no Muslim, Bruv&quot;). RequiresHate was able to leverage an ideology that actually gave her permission to act as she did. She could behave as she did without breaking the rules.

I wonder how visible Mark Clark&#039;s behavior was to the community he operated in, because if you remember RH&#039;s behavior was very, very public, and yet few people called her on it. Those who did were generally mobbed by her supporters. All this was possible because of an ideology that explicitly says it&#039;s okay to silence/abuse some people, the same ideology that we&#039;re seeing in the serial farragos at Goldsmith&#039;s UCL (where as you know bullying and abuse is also in the mix).

Any ideology that treats people differently on the basis of race, gender, religion, hair color, or whatever, will always be hackable by a good manipulator. If the defining characteristic is hair color than there will be endless debates about exactly what shade someone&#039;s hair is, or whether they are &#039;blonde on the inside&#039;, or &#039;think brunnette&#039; or have &#039;internalized gingerness&#039;. Any crack in the structure will be levered into a chasm by a skilled attacker, as RH did.

But if we make the absolute statement that everyone has a right to speak, that no-one should be treated worse than anyone else, regardless of their identity, then there are no cracks in the moral structure. There&#039;s nothing to be finnessed or argued.

Only communities that make such a commitment will be robust under attack by a skilled manipulator.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just a matter of shared values though. We do sometimes spot abusers who share our values, because they act in ways counter to those values (&#8220;You ain&#8217;t no Muslim, Bruv&#8221;). RequiresHate was able to leverage an ideology that actually gave her permission to act as she did. She could behave as she did without breaking the rules.</p>
<p>I wonder how visible Mark Clark&#8217;s behavior was to the community he operated in, because if you remember RH&#8217;s behavior was very, very public, and yet few people called her on it. Those who did were generally mobbed by her supporters. All this was possible because of an ideology that explicitly says it&#8217;s okay to silence/abuse some people, the same ideology that we&#8217;re seeing in the serial farragos at Goldsmith&#8217;s UCL (where as you know bullying and abuse is also in the mix).</p>
<p>Any ideology that treats people differently on the basis of race, gender, religion, hair color, or whatever, will always be hackable by a good manipulator. If the defining characteristic is hair color than there will be endless debates about exactly what shade someone&#8217;s hair is, or whether they are &#8216;blonde on the inside&#8217;, or &#8216;think brunnette&#8217; or have &#8216;internalized gingerness&#8217;. Any crack in the structure will be levered into a chasm by a skilled attacker, as RH did.</p>
<p>But if we make the absolute statement that everyone has a right to speak, that no-one should be treated worse than anyone else, regardless of their identity, then there are no cracks in the moral structure. There&#8217;s nothing to be finnessed or argued.</p>
<p>Only communities that make such a commitment will be robust under attack by a skilled manipulator.</p>
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