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	<title>Comments on: The Music Biz &#8211; Raze it and start over again!</title>
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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/music/the-music-biz-raze-it-and-start-over-again/comment-page-1/#comment-3685</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do Pinnacle distribute for the majors or just the indies?  If smaller labels can&#039;t get their records into bricks-and-mortar shops then I think it&#039;s game over for the high street record shop; they won&#039;t have any greater variety of stuff on sale as Tescos.   The whole retail business is going to shift online, if it hasn&#039;t already.

I&#039;m convinced (going on statements from people like Matt Cohen of The Reasoning) that independent labels are part of the old business model; recording is now cheap enough for bands to do albums on their own without needing advances from labels; the useful things that record companies did (such as promotion) can be done by individual businesses bought in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do Pinnacle distribute for the majors or just the indies?  If smaller labels can&#8217;t get their records into bricks-and-mortar shops then I think it&#8217;s game over for the high street record shop; they won&#8217;t have any greater variety of stuff on sale as Tescos.   The whole retail business is going to shift online, if it hasn&#8217;t already.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m convinced (going on statements from people like Matt Cohen of The Reasoning) that independent labels are part of the old business model; recording is now cheap enough for bands to do albums on their own without needing advances from labels; the useful things that record companies did (such as promotion) can be done by individual businesses bought in.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Beatmaster</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/music/the-music-biz-raze-it-and-start-over-again/comment-page-1/#comment-3684</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Beatmaster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just read on the ROTD forum about Pinnacle distribution going bust-
which they&#039;re saying is the death knell for the UK music industry-
with so many labels depending on Pinnacle and the collateral damage this will cause. could be game over for the old business model here.

I guess there is net music filtering of sorts with stations on Soundclick, as used to be on mp3.com back in the day-
anyone can set up station pages selecting songs they like, and users will hear 
each song stream in turn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read on the ROTD forum about Pinnacle distribution going bust-<br />
which they&#8217;re saying is the death knell for the UK music industry-<br />
with so many labels depending on Pinnacle and the collateral damage this will cause. could be game over for the old business model here.</p>
<p>I guess there is net music filtering of sorts with stations on Soundclick, as used to be on mp3.com back in the day-<br />
anyone can set up station pages selecting songs they like, and users will hear<br />
each song stream in turn.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/music/the-music-biz-raze-it-and-start-over-again/comment-page-1/#comment-3676</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most people don&#039;t have the time or inclination to see out music by themselves - perhaps landfill indie or &quot;ASDA-pop&quot; is all they deserve.

Still, I&#039;m not convinced that some kind of internet-based &quot;wisdom of crowds&quot; approach will work better than the current method music being filtered by self-appointed trendy cliques and corporate shills.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people don&#8217;t have the time or inclination to see out music by themselves &#8211; perhaps landfill indie or &#8220;ASDA-pop&#8221; is all they deserve.</p>
<p>Still, I&#8217;m not convinced that some kind of internet-based &#8220;wisdom of crowds&#8221; approach will work better than the current method music being filtered by self-appointed trendy cliques and corporate shills.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Beatmaster</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/music/the-music-biz-raze-it-and-start-over-again/comment-page-1/#comment-3675</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Beatmaster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 15:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I reckon any form of filtering of music on the net will be flawed, and biased by favouritism, bribes/incentives- resulting in the same old problems as of the old music industry.

I&#039;d like to see a myspace random radio player that randomly selects unsigned  artists&#039; tracks regardless of chart position or who&#039;s hyping them- if you don&#039;t like it, you can just hit next to move on to another.

that way you could discover artists you like quickly and easily using your ears alone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reckon any form of filtering of music on the net will be flawed, and biased by favouritism, bribes/incentives- resulting in the same old problems as of the old music industry.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see a myspace random radio player that randomly selects unsigned  artists&#8217; tracks regardless of chart position or who&#8217;s hyping them- if you don&#8217;t like it, you can just hit next to move on to another.</p>
<p>that way you could discover artists you like quickly and easily using your ears alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/music/the-music-biz-raze-it-and-start-over-again/comment-page-1/#comment-3673</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The last thing I want to see is some sort of one-size-fits all filtering which will just end up with the same lowest common denominator as before.  If that&#039;s all that happens, Al Gore will have wasted his time inventing teh internets.

Interesting to see how things like last.fm work out - some sort of intelligent filtering that starts out on the basis that everyone&#039;s tastes are not the same.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last thing I want to see is some sort of one-size-fits all filtering which will just end up with the same lowest common denominator as before.  If that&#8217;s all that happens, Al Gore will have wasted his time inventing teh internets.</p>
<p>Interesting to see how things like last.fm work out &#8211; some sort of intelligent filtering that starts out on the basis that everyone&#8217;s tastes are not the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Cravens</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Cravens]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The filtering will happen.  Years ago, Karen and I predicted that the biggest asset on the Internet would eventually be filtering the wheat from the chaff.

It&#039;s slow to happen, but it&#039;s happening in many areas.  I think the Internet&#039;s biggest problem right now is a reluctance to filter...   gotta friend everybody that even remotely knows who you are, gotta follow everyone on Twitter that follows you.  In blog aggregation, nobody gets left out... the net is about inclusion right now.

Eventually, folks will figure out that there is little value in blind inclusion and much value in selectivity.  The filtering will happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The filtering will happen.  Years ago, Karen and I predicted that the biggest asset on the Internet would eventually be filtering the wheat from the chaff.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s slow to happen, but it&#8217;s happening in many areas.  I think the Internet&#8217;s biggest problem right now is a reluctance to filter&#8230;   gotta friend everybody that even remotely knows who you are, gotta follow everyone on Twitter that follows you.  In blog aggregation, nobody gets left out&#8230; the net is about inclusion right now.</p>
<p>Eventually, folks will figure out that there is little value in blind inclusion and much value in selectivity.  The filtering will happen.</p>
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