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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Jon Edwards (Panic Room) is getting the message about Flash.  BTW, I&#039;ve met Richard Pocock (the guy who built their site), and he&#039;s a nice guy apart from the Flash fetish.

As for business models of the future, I don&#039;t think there&#039;s going to be a one-size-fits all model, and the mass-market and niche audience bands are going to do things very differently.  The &quot;give the records away free and make money from touring&quot; is going to work for some bands, but not for others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Jon Edwards (Panic Room) is getting the message about Flash.  BTW, I&#8217;ve met Richard Pocock (the guy who built their site), and he&#8217;s a nice guy apart from the Flash fetish.</p>
<p>As for business models of the future, I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s going to be a one-size-fits all model, and the mass-market and niche audience bands are going to do things very differently.  The &#8220;give the records away free and make money from touring&#8221; is going to work for some bands, but not for others.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/music/oms-4/comment-page-1/#comment-3240</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 07:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tales from Topographic Oceans, now there&#039;s an interesting one.  Way back in my hair days, I was inclined towards the &#039;it&#039;s a bit of a bloater&#039; view, but I&#039;ve mellowed a tad over the years.  These days I guess I play it as much as any other Yes album, with the exception of Relayer which is still top dog for me 30 years on.

I suspect this is due to a number of things.  Generally I&#039;ve grown further away from the 3 minute bursts of my Glam and Punk roots.  CDs, mp3s and playlists have removed the psychological barrier of turning over LPs which marked time in my youth.  I just sit back and enjoy a few hours music.

On top of this, I&#039;m into a lot more bands who produce longer stuff.  I&#039;ve got so much Flower Kings albums, for example, that Topographic Oceans just doesn&#039;t seem the extended work that it used to.

Plus I&#039;ve got all those Dream Theater triple CD live sets.  You know, the ones where you need to book a day&#039;s leave if you want to listen to one...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tales from Topographic Oceans, now there&#8217;s an interesting one.  Way back in my hair days, I was inclined towards the &#8216;it&#8217;s a bit of a bloater&#8217; view, but I&#8217;ve mellowed a tad over the years.  These days I guess I play it as much as any other Yes album, with the exception of Relayer which is still top dog for me 30 years on.</p>
<p>I suspect this is due to a number of things.  Generally I&#8217;ve grown further away from the 3 minute bursts of my Glam and Punk roots.  CDs, mp3s and playlists have removed the psychological barrier of turning over LPs which marked time in my youth.  I just sit back and enjoy a few hours music.</p>
<p>On top of this, I&#8217;m into a lot more bands who produce longer stuff.  I&#8217;ve got so much Flower Kings albums, for example, that Topographic Oceans just doesn&#8217;t seem the extended work that it used to.</p>
<p>Plus I&#8217;ve got all those Dream Theater triple CD live sets.  You know, the ones where you need to book a day&#8217;s leave if you want to listen to one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/music/oms-4/comment-page-1/#comment-3239</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[â€œI buy direct from bandsâ€™ websites wherever possibleâ€

Yeah, I do that where appropriate â€“ Arena, Fish, Marillion, MA, etc.  But most bands arenâ€™t really geared up in the same way, not to mention all those Flash sites and German bands who donâ€™t actually take credit cards when you get to the checkout stage.

Itâ€™s interesting to ponder where exactly this business model might go in the future.  It works OK for me with a few favoured bands, but all of them?  I just couldnâ€™t cope!  Iâ€™ve bought 170 music CDs and DVDs so far this year, and canâ€™t really see a way to keep on top of reading e-mails and surfing multiple websites much beyond what I already do.  Music is my hobby, not shopping! ;-)


â€œBTW, what do you make of Glass Shadowsâ€

Good album, but I donâ€™t think Mostly Autumn will ever make an album that I think is excellent.  Thatâ€™s not a criticism, just personal taste.


â€œI hope we didnâ€™t scare you away from the MA forum.â€

No.  I popped up because of the new album, but there doesnâ€™t seem to be much of interest there for me generally.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œI buy direct from bandsâ€™ websites wherever possibleâ€</p>
<p>Yeah, I do that where appropriate â€“ Arena, Fish, Marillion, MA, etc.  But most bands arenâ€™t really geared up in the same way, not to mention all those Flash sites and German bands who donâ€™t actually take credit cards when you get to the checkout stage.</p>
<p>Itâ€™s interesting to ponder where exactly this business model might go in the future.  It works OK for me with a few favoured bands, but all of them?  I just couldnâ€™t cope!  Iâ€™ve bought 170 music CDs and DVDs so far this year, and canâ€™t really see a way to keep on top of reading e-mails and surfing multiple websites much beyond what I already do.  Music is my hobby, not shopping! <img src='http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>â€œBTW, what do you make of Glass Shadowsâ€</p>
<p>Good album, but I donâ€™t think Mostly Autumn will ever make an album that I think is excellent.  Thatâ€™s not a criticism, just personal taste.</p>
<p>â€œI hope we didnâ€™t scare you away from the MA forum.â€</p>
<p>No.  I popped up because of the new album, but there doesnâ€™t seem to be much of interest there for me generally.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike - I&#039;d add &quot;Relayer&quot; to that list.  Those five represent the essential Yes to my ears.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; I&#8217;d add &#8220;Relayer&#8221; to that list.  Those five represent the essential Yes to my ears.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As for Amazon, I buy direct from bands&#039; websites wherever possible; they way the band rather than middlemen get most of the money.

BTW, what do you make of Glass Shadows - I hope we didn&#039;t scare you away from the MA forum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Amazon, I buy direct from bands&#8217; websites wherever possible; they way the band rather than middlemen get most of the money.</p>
<p>BTW, what do you make of Glass Shadows &#8211; I hope we didn&#8217;t scare you away from the MA forum.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike (echoman)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hear you with Yes.  I could never get into &quot;Tales...&quot;, but &quot;Fragile&quot;, &quot;The Yes&quot; album, &quot;Close To The Edge&quot;, and even the underrated &quot;Going For The One&quot; are in the top echelon of classic prog rock.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you with Yes.  I could never get into &#8220;Tales&#8230;&#8221;, but &#8220;Fragile&#8221;, &#8220;The Yes&#8221; album, &#8220;Close To The Edge&#8221;, and even the underrated &#8220;Going For The One&#8221; are in the top echelon of classic prog rock.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jones</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amazon are my preferred supplier, too, as it&#039;s very rare I &#039;m near a record shop these days.  Stuff from Amazon turns up reliably next day and drops through the letter box nicely :)

No, I&#039;m not going to Showcase, although I&#039;ve no doubt it will be an excellent show.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazon are my preferred supplier, too, as it&#8217;s very rare I &#8216;m near a record shop these days.  Stuff from Amazon turns up reliably next day and drops through the letter box nicely <img src='http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>No, I&#8217;m not going to Showcase, although I&#8217;ve no doubt it will be an excellent show.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since I&#039;m not likely to get near a record shop in the next 10 days, I&#039;ve ordered both from Amazon.

BTW, are you going to DEMU Showcase this Saturday?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I&#8217;m not likely to get near a record shop in the next 10 days, I&#8217;ve ordered both from Amazon.</p>
<p>BTW, are you going to DEMU Showcase this Saturday?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jones</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Opeth&#039;s UK release was Monday.  Really excellent album, at least to me.  Lots more of the quiet/loud contrasts that I so like - they really seem to be refining their art.

Already pencilled in the Heep release, although I haven&#039;t actually ordered a copy as yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opeth&#8217;s UK release was Monday.  Really excellent album, at least to me.  Lots more of the quiet/loud contrasts that I so like &#8211; they really seem to be refining their art.</p>
<p>Already pencilled in the Heep release, although I haven&#8217;t actually ordered a copy as yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Opeth&#039;s new one is out?  I&#039;ll have to get hold of it.  

BTW, the new Uriah Heep is due out in a week or so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opeth&#8217;s new one is out?  I&#8217;ll have to get hold of it.  </p>
<p>BTW, the new Uriah Heep is due out in a week or so.</p>
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