Comments on: Yes, Journey, The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and Salon

By: John Hunt

John Hunt — Thu, 03 Nov 2016 08:58:21 +0000

Ironically, the same week, as the Salon article being discussed above, they published an article which praised Marc Bolan, which illustrates perfectly the argument I am presently trying to make on the forum, that it’s only in niche publications that he gets any credit. http://www.salon.com/2016/10/11/the-kanye-bowie-connection-it-is-songs-about-fame-and-about-decadence-about-this-dissolute-life-and-how-you-are-quite-unhappy/

By: John Hunt

John Hunt — Thu, 03 Nov 2016 08:31:19 +0000

It’s been a bone of contention on the T.Rex forums for years that they have continually been ignored by the Hall of Fame. Some are arguing, that because T.Rex are considered a ‘credible’ artist by some ‘cool’ publications, and websites, that’s enough, and we shouldn’t be bothered.
I’ve been shouted down on there before, for daring to defend Queen, by one poster, who used the same old ‘boring old fart’ and punk arguments. so maybe I shouldn’t be surprised.

Don’t know if the link to the forum discussion will work.
http://marc-bolan.com/forum/index.php?topic=57.new#new

By: Synthetase

Synthetase — Thu, 20 Oct 2016 12:27:44 +0000

“Though the Hall of Fame is supposed to be about the body of work as a whole rather than one late-career hit they wasnâ€™t typical of their work.”

Yeah, you can tell I don’t know anything about the Hall of Fame from my “song should be in it” comment

By: Tim Hall

Tim Hall — Thu, 20 Oct 2016 09:32:04 +0000

Though the Hall of Fame is supposed to be about the body of work as a whole rather than one late-career hit they wasn’t typical of their work.

But as a friend said on Twitter, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is “heavily tilted towards a particular idea of “rock” perpetuated by the old guard of US rock journalism”

By: Synthetase

Synthetase — Thu, 20 Oct 2016 07:24:48 +0000

I would argue that if a song still receives plenty of airplay, and people still want to belt it out while hammered at karaoke bars over thirty years after initial release, that it is exactly the sort of song that should be put in the rock and roll hall of fame.

Whether you like it personally or not, you can’t deny that others certainly do like it and it’s clearly had an impact on the wider culture.

This guy slams Journey for not being inventive enough, then Yes for not being inventive in The Right Way[TM]. After reading the article, I found that exactly how inventive one must be will remain forever undefined.

By: Tim Hall

Tim Hall — Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:55:30 +0000

It’s a bit ambiguous, I’d have to admit. But judging the band on one big hit a decade after they made the music on which their reputation rests is like judging Jefferson Airplane on “We Built This City”.

By: Abahachi

Abahachi — Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:47:10 +0000

Not sure; I’d read this as saying that he recognises Yes’ early work as having some originality and so doesn’t want it erased from history (even if he prefers King Crimson) but really really hates ‘Owner of a Lonely Heart’ – and of course that’s the one that gets played on radio. Agreed, taking the Hall of Fame seriously in the first place is the cardinal error.