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	<title>Comments on: The Greying of Rock Fandom?</title>
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		<title>By: Tom B</title>
		<link>http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/music/music-opinion/the-greying-of-rock-fandom/comment-page-1/#comment-80539</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2016 12:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I first saw Curved Air about six years ago my mate and I were the youngest people in the room (early forties and mid forties respectively at the time) and every year since the audience seems to have dwindled (dying off?). I&#039;ve seen people in their thirties at Mostly Autumn gigs but generally youngsters seem to be non-existent (with the exception of a Magenta-mad teenager I know).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first saw Curved Air about six years ago my mate and I were the youngest people in the room (early forties and mid forties respectively at the time) and every year since the audience seems to have dwindled (dying off?). I&#8217;ve seen people in their thirties at Mostly Autumn gigs but generally youngsters seem to be non-existent (with the exception of a Magenta-mad teenager I know).</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2016 22:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Were you at Panic Room in Birmingham last year? ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were you at Panic Room in Birmingham last year? <img src='http://www.kalyr.co.uk/weblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: PaulE</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2016 22:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, after decades of rebellious pop/rock music, I can predict who is in the wrong queue at a live music venue based on age. So much for individuality and maverick  choices if people are so predictable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, after decades of rebellious pop/rock music, I can predict who is in the wrong queue at a live music venue based on age. So much for individuality and maverick  choices if people are so predictable.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2016 11:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing prog, folk and blues have in common is they&#039;re more or less invisible on the mainstream media; you won&#039;t see or hear Iamthemorning or Chantel McGregor on something like Later with Jools Holland, as far as the producers of that show go, if it&#039;s not indie it doesn&#039;t exist.

The media environment in other countries may be quite different.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing prog, folk and blues have in common is they&#8217;re more or less invisible on the mainstream media; you won&#8217;t see or hear Iamthemorning or Chantel McGregor on something like Later with Jools Holland, as far as the producers of that show go, if it&#8217;s not indie it doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>The media environment in other countries may be quite different.</p>
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		<title>By: David Meadows</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Meadows]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2016 08:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(New comment because it&#039;s a different point.)

It&#039;s not just [prog] rock. We&#039;re in the middle of a folk revival at the moment with a lot of young bands around, and when I go to their concerts the entire audience is old enough to be their parents (plus a scattering of young people who go in carrying their own fiddle cases -- anyone under 50 who loves folk music is in a band!). 

But the classical music scene has been holding serious, hand-wringing discussions for decades about how you attract listeners who are not pensioners. And yet, miraculously, the grey-haired audience for classical music keeps renewing itself, and has done for decades. Nobody&#039;s quite sure how. 

Maybe a certain audience would automatically gravitate to classical music anyway, but for some not-understood reason (my theory it that it has to do with peer pressure, and at a certain age you don&#039;t care about peer pressure any more) they wait until they&#039;re 50 before they say, &quot;Beethoven, I&#039;ll give that a try...&quot; 

And maybe the same thing is going to happen to rock music. It&#039;s not old enoughto know yet, we need the current grey-haired generation to literally die off before we&#039;ll see what happens next.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(New comment because it&#8217;s a different point.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just [prog] rock. We&#8217;re in the middle of a folk revival at the moment with a lot of young bands around, and when I go to their concerts the entire audience is old enough to be their parents (plus a scattering of young people who go in carrying their own fiddle cases &#8212; anyone under 50 who loves folk music is in a band!). </p>
<p>But the classical music scene has been holding serious, hand-wringing discussions for decades about how you attract listeners who are not pensioners. And yet, miraculously, the grey-haired audience for classical music keeps renewing itself, and has done for decades. Nobody&#8217;s quite sure how. </p>
<p>Maybe a certain audience would automatically gravitate to classical music anyway, but for some not-understood reason (my theory it that it has to do with peer pressure, and at a certain age you don&#8217;t care about peer pressure any more) they wait until they&#8217;re 50 before they say, &#8220;Beethoven, I&#8217;ll give that a try&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>And maybe the same thing is going to happen to rock music. It&#8217;s not old enoughto know yet, we need the current grey-haired generation to literally die off before we&#8217;ll see what happens next.</p>
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		<title>By: David Meadows</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Meadows]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2016 07:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s different everywhere, and the UK scene is the exception. Iamthemorning have said that they played to people their own age in Russia, and couldn&#039;t understand why their audience in the UK was all middle-aged men. When I saw Flying Colors in London, half the audience was half my age -- and every young person (and incidentally every female) I heard talking had a European accent. Every British accent belonged to a middle-aged bloke.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s different everywhere, and the UK scene is the exception. Iamthemorning have said that they played to people their own age in Russia, and couldn&#8217;t understand why their audience in the UK was all middle-aged men. When I saw Flying Colors in London, half the audience was half my age &#8212; and every young person (and incidentally every female) I heard talking had a European accent. Every British accent belonged to a middle-aged bloke.</p>
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		<title>By: Synthetase</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2016 00:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The audience make-up is a bit different in Melbourne. When I go to our local festival, Progfest, most of the people there are in their 20s and 30s. However, the scene here seems to be a little more hard-edged (more &lt;i&gt;Voyager&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Caligula&#039;s Horse&lt;/i&gt;, never seen anyone remotely like &lt;i&gt;Mostly Autumn&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;Panic Room&lt;/i&gt;) and  than what you often write about. Of course that might just be selection bias on my part.

Most of the people who went to the last Steven Wilson, Anathema and Opeth gigs here were of the same 20s-30s age group as well.

As far as blues rock goes, I don&#039;t really know, but I think it is generally an older audience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The audience make-up is a bit different in Melbourne. When I go to our local festival, Progfest, most of the people there are in their 20s and 30s. However, the scene here seems to be a little more hard-edged (more <i>Voyager</i> and <i>Caligula&#8217;s Horse</i>, never seen anyone remotely like <i>Mostly Autumn</i> or <i>Panic Room</i>) and  than what you often write about. Of course that might just be selection bias on my part.</p>
<p>Most of the people who went to the last Steven Wilson, Anathema and Opeth gigs here were of the same 20s-30s age group as well.</p>
<p>As far as blues rock goes, I don&#8217;t really know, but I think it is generally an older audience.</p>
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